Jun 20

Dawkins’ delusions

Tag: Science & religiondoug @ 5:41 pm

There’s an interesting article at Scientific American, a conversation on faith and science between Lawrence Krauss and Richard Dawkins. Perhaps because he’s engaging with someone who shares many of his basic perspectives, Dawkins sounds less rabid and more reasonable than he often does.

However, one quote that caught my eye was this one:

The world is not irrational. The world may be unfair but it is not irrational. The rational response to an unfair world is to recognize that we have no right to expect it to be fair. If that sounds callous, I’m sorry, but it is the business of science to understand the way the world is, not to try to derive comfort from it. All we can do is take political and other human action to make fairer that small part of the world over which we have control.

I note two things about Dawkins’ statement here:

  • First, he claims that the world is not irrational. Note that he says therefore that the world  is, and not seems, nor can be construed as, but is rational.
  • Second he sees that unfairness is a characteristic of the world, but that we can act to make at least part of the world other than what it is. In other words, the rationality of human morality is both different from the rationality of the world, and may run counter to it.

I would generally wish to join him in statements about the rationality of the world, although I’m perhaps more aware than he is that that claim is epistemologically more difficult than his statement assumes. With that proviso I would like to pose two sets of questions.

  1. Given that the universe appears to have its physical origin in a random quantum fluctuation, with one improbability then piled on another, and where random mutations are a significant and key component of the development of intelligence, how rational is it to believe that such a world is of itself rational, or could be rational? Is it not more rational to hold that any rationality is in the mind of the observer, who imposes it on the random universe? Isn’t the idea of a creator the only philosophically certain way of imputing rationality to the universe, instead of our observations of the universe?
  2. If the universe without a Creator is rational, but our moral codes of behaviour run counter to the rationality of the universe, then to what extent can our morality be rational? Isn’t a description of the universe which includes moral purpose and unifies an account of what is, and an account of how we should live in what is, more inherently likely to be rational, than one which postulates a complete divorce between “good” behaviour and “the way things are”?

For me, although it is by no means the only component of my faith, the answers to these questions mean it is more rational to believe in God, than to disbelieve. I do not think, despite the temptations to wallow in post-modern communal accounts of “my truth” and “your truth,” that we should give up wider claims to a common rationality. On that, at least, I suspect Dawkins and I would be in agreement.

6 Responses to “Dawkins’ delusions”

  1. Bob MacDonald says:

    No - I don’t think it is more or less rational or irrational to believe in God. I find it curious that before I read your note - and I like the random approach to our knowledge of creation - I wrote this note on inerrancy: The truth is errant, going to and fro, a random walk on the earth to see if there were any that seek after God, and to hide from them that know the answer in advance.

    Belief needs to be seen more as engagement than reason - and I think none of us is exempt or incompetent whether we are very smart or (as are two of my children) seriously brain damaged. Perhaps ‘belief’ is consciousness of such engagement with the fire of love and judgment. But such engagement - even marriage - is not a matter of sola cogitans.

    Morality follows from engagement with the untimate non-user-of-power. It does not precede so it cannot be used as precondition except to the extent that our consciousness of error is part of the engagement.

  2. Beyond Words says:

    You’re right on with your logic, seems to me.

    I’m trying to wrap my mind around the relationship between rationality and fairness. It almost seems a contradiction to say on one hand, the universe is rational, and on the other, that it is unfair. Without God, whose definition of fair do we use? How can one cry “unfair” if one believes the universe operates on rationality? Wouldn’t rationality be the epitome of fairness in that paradigm?

  3. doug says:

    One might have thought so. It’s this divorce between the two concepts that strikes me (like you) as irrational.

  4. Beyond Words says:

    Thanks for correcting the typo in my Web address!

  5. Bob MacDonald says:

    I left a brief comment at http://stenagmois.blogspot.com/2007/06/faith-in-faith-around-blog-world.html
    I tend to agree that neither fair nor rational nor moral can be used except as reactions to our state and to what we see or hear revealed.

  6. doug says:

    Bob, I’m not sure I entirely understand your comments (which for some reason got caught in a spam-trap hell from which I’ve now rescued them) but you do raise a couple of issues that I want to respond to more fully. Look for another post, hopefully tomorrow!

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