Sep 23

From omphalism to self-awareness: round-up

Tag: Blogging, Round upsdoug @ 8:49 pm

A few posts that have caught my eye this last week

I wouldn’t normally comment in a round-up on one of my own posts, but I learnt a useful lesson this week. You never know who’s going to read what you write when you blog. I made some comments on Chilton’s and Neusner’s newish book on the Pharisees. Despite largely consisting of very good and stimulating individual essays in it (only a couple of disappointments), the book was in my humble view rather less than the sum of its parts. I was very surprised when Bruce Chilton popped up to react to the criticism with his own brusque and fairly derogatory comment. While I might have worded some things more carefully if I’d known one of its editors would read the review (and while I wished I’d made it longer), I don’t think I’d have changed the substance of what I said. But it was a salutary reminder that even when it feels like it, my blog ramblings aren’t private!

8 Responses to “From omphalism to self-awareness: round-up”

  1. Matt Robison says:

    I appreciate the recognition!

    And somewhat off topic, but do you have a full RSS feed? I can’t seem to find the link anywhere on your site.

  2. doug says:

    The feed should be at http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/feed/
    I’m afraid I just rely on my software to discover feeds for me, but I probably ought to get round to putting a link on the site.
    And I really did enjoy that post of yours!

  3. Jim says:

    I once commented on the stupidity of Chilton’s “Jesus” book and he did me the kindness of saying I was an idiot. We had quite a little round on Bible and Interpretation. It was great fun seeing what a real git the man is with his wild flights of imagination and his rubbish theories.

  4. Stephen (aka Q) says:

    That inverse bookshelf length law is a little worrying for those of us who pursue an interest in theology! I hope God is a worthy subject for all the ink expended on his account! (But Dawkins certainly wouldn’t think so.)

  5. Peter Davies says:

    Do spot spot Michael Pahl’s deliberate error: creation took six not seven days – unless, you count rest as the ultimate creative action, which is not a bad thought.

  6. Peter Kirk says:

    What happened to the omphalism link?

  7. doug says:

    Peter, thanks for the catch. I’m baffled by what happened to the link, but I’ve corrected it now!

  8. Peter Kirk says:

    Thanks for correcting the quote. Your post now looks as if it came into being a long time ago (well, on Sunday) when in fact it was created only an hour or so ago. The wonders of modern technology allow as much digital omphalism as we want.

    In fact of course the omphalism argument goes back to Philip Gosse’s 1857 book Omphalos “in which he argues that the fossil record is not evidence of evolution, but rather that it is an act of creation inevitably made so that the world would appear to be older than it is”. Kingsley’s response to Gosse, given in the same place, shows how omphalism in fact undermines the whole concept of creation.

    Mayfly claims that “The logical flaws are legion.” In fact I dispute that. The problem, as even the great logician and atheist Bertrand Russell seems to have recognised, is that there are no logical flaws in the hypothesis, and that it is in fact impossible to falsify - and of course to prove. This implies that it is not a scientific hypothesis at all. And to the extent that even mainstream creationism has to use omphalistic arguments at times, e.g. to explain some fossils, it is also not scientific. The best argument against this is simple mockery.

    In fact we can take omphalism even further than the Last Thursday hypothesis. I could suggest that the universe has not yet been created at all, but my consciousness of the present is in fact only a thought process in the mind of God, concerning the reality which he is intending to create, or perhaps simply imagining and never will create. Also both unprovable and unfalsifiable, and perhaps with a longer history in religious thinking than that of omphalism.

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