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	<title>Comments on: The SPCK saga and Texan &#34;Orthodoxy&#34;</title>
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	<description>a few graffiti on the wall of life</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Blogger Threatened with Libel Action from SPCK Bookshops Owner &#171; Bartholomew&#8217;s Notes on Religion</title>
		<link>http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/2007/11/the-spck-saga-and-texan-orthodoxy/#comment-4792</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger Threatened with Libel Action from SPCK Bookshops Owner &#171; Bartholomew&#8217;s Notes on Religion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] claims that ongoing criticism in the Church Times has been motivated by the fact that the Times&#8216; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ministry of Truth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SPCK owner seeks to bankrupt UK charity in US court</title>
		<link>http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/2007/11/the-spck-saga-and-texan-orthodoxy/#comment-4774</link>
		<dc:creator>Ministry of Truth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SPCK owner seeks to bankrupt UK charity in US court</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also more background to be found at MetaCatholic, including some interesting questions about Brewer&#8217;s rather [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Esteban Vázquez</title>
		<link>http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/2007/11/the-spck-saga-and-texan-orthodoxy/#comment-4758</link>
		<dc:creator>Esteban Vázquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is simply disgraceful. Have these people no notion of the canonical order of the Church--let alone of justice in the treatment of others? They seem bent in wreaking havoc wherever they set their sights. A disgrace!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is simply disgraceful. Have these people no notion of the canonical order of the Church&#8211;let alone of justice in the treatment of others? They seem bent in wreaking havoc wherever they set their sights. A disgrace!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Walker, Cartoonist of Lambeth: Injustice Is Not Funny</title>
		<link>http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/2007/11/the-spck-saga-and-texan-orthodoxy/#comment-4727</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Walker, Cartoonist of Lambeth: Injustice Is Not Funny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you read this post at Metacatholic, and then read all the excerpted comments and trackbacks to the bottom, you&#8217;ll get a pretty [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Jeynes, RIP &#171; SPCK/SSG: News, Notes &#38; Info</title>
		<link>http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/2007/11/the-spck-saga-and-texan-orthodoxy/#comment-4386</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jeynes, RIP &#171; SPCK/SSG: News, Notes &#38; Info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 27, 2008 &#183; 11 Comments  Steve Jeynes, former manager of SPCK/SSG Worcester, has been found dead, apparently having taken his own life. Doug Chaplin, a local parish priest, wrote as follows at 5.30pm today: Many people have been following (especially with the help of Dave Walker) the slowly unfurling disaster of the destruction of the former SPCK Bookshop chain. (See an earlier post of mine here) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] June 27, 2008 &middot; 11 Comments  Steve Jeynes, former manager of SPCK/SSG Worcester, has been found dead, apparently having taken his own life. Doug Chaplin, a local parish priest, wrote as follows at 5.30pm today: Many people have been following (especially with the help of Dave Walker) the slowly unfurling disaster of the destruction of the former SPCK Bookshop chain. (See an earlier post of mine here) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MetaCatholic &#187; In Worcester the SSG / SPCK saga turns to tragedy</title>
		<link>http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/2007/11/the-spck-saga-and-texan-orthodoxy/#comment-4350</link>
		<dc:creator>MetaCatholic &#187; In Worcester the SSG / SPCK saga turns to tragedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Walker) the slowly unfurling disaster of the destruction of the former SPCK Bookshop chain. (See an earlier post of mine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/2007/11/the-spck-saga-and-texan-orthodoxy/#comment-2090</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bizarre that there are two competing Orthodox churches in Poole with almost identical looking websites - &lt;a&gt;St. Stephens&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a&gt;St. Dunstan&lt;/a&gt;. Even more bizarre that they link to competing photo archives that are so identical in content that at first you don't spot the difference! This is clearly a very acrimonious split and someone appears to be not facing up to reality here! It makes the whole SCPK bookshop story begin to look like part of a pattern of behaviour - serial identity theft (badly managed)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bizarre that there are two competing Orthodox churches in Poole with almost identical looking websites - <a>St. Stephens</a> and <a>St. Dunstan</a>. Even more bizarre that they link to competing photo archives that are so identical in content that at first you don&#8217;t spot the difference! This is clearly a very acrimonious split and someone appears to be not facing up to reality here! It makes the whole SCPK bookshop story begin to look like part of a pattern of behaviour - serial identity theft (badly managed)!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Page &#187; SPCK no more</title>
		<link>http://www.metacatholic.co.uk/2007/11/the-spck-saga-and-texan-orthodoxy/#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Page &#187; SPCK no more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they do emerge it tends to be simply to burn bridges with other organisations, as listed in this intriguing post about the SSG&#8217;s argument with the Church Times. What do we make of all this? Well, it might simply be proof of what I have heard from another [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they do emerge it tends to be simply to burn bridges with other organisations, as listed in this intriguing post about the SSG&#8217;s argument with the Church Times. What do we make of all this? Well, it might simply be proof of what I have heard from another [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Gregory Hallam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr. Gregory Hallam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As web master of the Antiochian Deanery web site I want to confirm that our departure from  the Poole church was necessitated by the impossibility of a priest serving a community apparently to be presided over by a bishop who was not of the diocese of the priest and community concerned; or at least that is what we took the act of consecration strongly to imply.  

We have not had a relationship with Mr. Brewer or his organisation since we relocated, nor do we wish to have one.  Nothing that has happened since has led us to regret our decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As web master of the Antiochian Deanery web site I want to confirm that our departure from  the Poole church was necessitated by the impossibility of a priest serving a community apparently to be presided over by a bishop who was not of the diocese of the priest and community concerned; or at least that is what we took the act of consecration strongly to imply.  </p>
<p>We have not had a relationship with Mr. Brewer or his organisation since we relocated, nor do we wish to have one.  Nothing that has happened since has led us to regret our decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is bizarre that the Brewers seem to be so clueless about how Orthodoxy operates. On the Church in Poole, the CT has Fr Chrysostom saying: &lt;i&gt;“We parted company with Mr Brewer and his organisation, as we found that the way in which they operated was contrary to our deanery statutes regarding the control of parishes.”&lt;/i&gt;

Presumably this is a reference to the Brewers bringing in a Metropolitan from an entirely different Patriarchate to consecrate the Church. The congregation in Poole predates the acquisition of the church, and seems to always have been under the juristiction of the Patricarch of Antioch. Now if there is one thing the Orthodox do not like, it is meddling with juristictional boundaries, as the recent schism in the Russian Orthodox community demonstrated.

I do wonder how clued up the Romanian Orthodox Church is on the Brewer's organisation. They must have had some involvement with its foundation: the choice of patron (St Stephen is revered in Romania), the fact that Metropolitan Josif was one of the trustees and consecrates their churches. But most Romanians I've spoken to have never heard of the organisation, and it seems very strange that the Metropolitan would knowingly have trespassed over juristictional boundaries. I'd be very interested to see how this develops, especially since the Brewers have just purchased another church in Bradford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is bizarre that the Brewers seem to be so clueless about how Orthodoxy operates. On the Church in Poole, the CT has Fr Chrysostom saying: <i>“We parted company with Mr Brewer and his organisation, as we found that the way in which they operated was contrary to our deanery statutes regarding the control of parishes.”</i></p>
<p>Presumably this is a reference to the Brewers bringing in a Metropolitan from an entirely different Patriarchate to consecrate the Church. The congregation in Poole predates the acquisition of the church, and seems to always have been under the juristiction of the Patricarch of Antioch. Now if there is one thing the Orthodox do not like, it is meddling with juristictional boundaries, as the recent schism in the Russian Orthodox community demonstrated.</p>
<p>I do wonder how clued up the Romanian Orthodox Church is on the Brewer&#8217;s organisation. They must have had some involvement with its foundation: the choice of patron (St Stephen is revered in Romania), the fact that Metropolitan Josif was one of the trustees and consecrates their churches. But most Romanians I&#8217;ve spoken to have never heard of the organisation, and it seems very strange that the Metropolitan would knowingly have trespassed over juristictional boundaries. I&#8217;d be very interested to see how this develops, especially since the Brewers have just purchased another church in Bradford.</p>
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