May 13 2008

The historical Jesus dating game

Tag: Gospels, Historical Jesus, Historiographydoug @ 9:54 pm

It seems to me that all too often, conservative and liberal share the same assumption in talking about the gospels. Early writings are held to carry a higher degree of historicity. Today Dan Wallace offered an initial post on the modern history of critical appraisal and dating of John. The idea that John was of little or no historical use certainly grew strongly in parallel with movements to date it late into the second century. Wallace relates how manuscript dating put paid to that, since we have a fragment of John earlier than the mid-second century, and possibly considerably earlier, as many readers will know. I don’t know where he will go with this idea, but there are hints that just as arguing for its lateness went hand in hand with doubting its historical value, so arguing for its early composition will strengthen its historical value.

In the same way Markan priority is often equated (perhaps subconsciously) with Markan historicity. Part of the mania for Q seem likewise concerned with constructing an earlier and more reliable (and more reliable because earlier?) source than the Synoptics. Likewise, and in face of some of the pained arguments, whether Thomas can be dated to the first century is a different question from whether it gets us any closer to the historical Jesus.

On the one hand the idea that early is more likely to carry historical memory is a reasonable starting assumption with which to explore the evidence, but it can’t overrule the character of the evidence: rather the evidence must be allowed to challenge the assumption. Luke, for example, makes an explicit claim that he has done detailed research and an implicit claim that he has found other earlier accounts (Matthew and Mark) unsatisfactory. The more we recognize Mark’s theological agenda, the less we can use the criterion of embarrassment to argue for the certain historicity of, say, the disciples’ thickness.

The fourth gospel is problematic – both assessing it in itself, and considering it in relationship to the synoptics, and in the face of such a complex work, its probable first century dating can say little enough about its historicity.


May 13 2008

Atheists and abortion

Tag: Ethicsdoug @ 12:25 am

Actually, my title for this post may be misleading, since I don’t actually know for certain what Chris Dillow’s views are, except that they’re usually worth engaging with. But this post is a refreshing change from the usual contributions on both sides of the debate. There are a whole raft of arguments that are not normally considered when the question is asked, because too many people are following well-worn scripts.

One question that, to my mind, is often overlooked, is why women should have to consider an invasive procedure on their body (chemical or surgical), just because men are unwilling to wear a rubber. There are, I think, occasions when a “woman’s right to choose” is used to excuse a man’s responsibility for where and how he sticks his dick. And how feminist is that?!


May 13 2008

What’s really wrong with postmodernism

Tag: Miscellaneousdoug @ 12:05 am

It’s nearly all foucaulting French!